Sunday, March 11, 2012

Dave Rat Blog - Oh My, Adventure July

Cool cool, doing a blog post of pic that I never (I think) got around to blog posting. So here is 40 snapshots of how I spent July 2011.

This is an overhead shot of the sub setup I used for Soundgarden.  I call it "The Fan" and it is based on the rear  sub facing backwards (in polarity, no delay) and the front subs all at the same time delay (8.5 ms) that is equal to the distance between between the distance from center of the speaker side of the rear sub to centers of the front facing subs.


An overhead view of Soundgarden mix position.


Overhead of the Sun Fan with a blow through 8x8 stage tops so it can be used by the band to wander on.


And a bunch of Soundgarden pics!







So love the Dorroughs meters!








Clearly heroic!


Found these 30 seconds from Mars confetti papers and I had no doubt that taping them to everyone's mac was the right thing to do.


Found me a dragonfly,, made me happy


More sub Fan


Gotta love Red Rocks!


The back tilt achievable from the L-Acoustics K1 rig can really cover Red Rocks, one of the most challenging venues to hit well.


Drawing the distance arc to setup the sub Fan


The Fan!


Rat crew was awesome!



As were the backline techs




My daughter Maddie came to visit on the tour and spent a week on the road with me


Matt's MicroWedge 12/ MicroSub 15 drumfill setup. So good!


What better way to play pre show music than to rock it old school style!


Ok, so in the parking lot of the LA forum are the lodge seats they are replacing. Holly crap, I sat in one of these in 1977 for Led Zeppelin song remains the same tour. And rock again am I am as I briefly re-live the memory.


Shameless Rat swag promotion!


Another tough day in Ventura.





So happy to see Hutch and even happier to see he set his board up sideways as well, facing mine. So cool!


Taka rocks!


And Kurt Kirkwood, so good to see ya!


Cool cool, so enjoyed my Soundgarden July, will try and get a Peppers August up soon.

Tuesday, March 6, 2012

Dave Rat Blog - Flying Power and Wires

Well alright, break time is nearly over and Peppers tour will be hitting the road again soon.  We were all slated to head out late January but we had a little set back and in the bigger picture it is good news that Anthony's foot is healing well from a painful injury that he had fixed up early Jan. Rehearsals start next week and by month's end we'll be finessing gear into a venue in Tampa Florida.

As I mentioned in the last blog post, I want to make a few changes to the Chili Peppers' touring sound system setup. Whilst I am exceedingly happy with the sound the L-Acoustics K1 system setup has been giving me, I feel we can do better and I am betting that the weakest link in the current chain is the long speaker cables we are running, 150 feet, is possibly causing an audible degradation to the sound. This may or may not seem obvious and while there is no doubt that the recommended shorter cables lengths are better, my true concern is "how audible is the difference in real world venues" and most importantly, I want to hear it for myself and not make assumptions or take someone else's word on it, especially if they have not actually tried it and heard it.

If you are not exposed to larger scale concert touring you may be wondering "why in the heck do you need 150 foot speaker cables?" Well, typically amp racks need to be tucked under the stage, cable then travels upstage to a point clear of sight-lines 30 to 40 feet, then upward 40 to 50 feet and then back toward the main clusters 30 to 40 feet.  Add in swag, slack and some length for venue to venue variation combined with prioritizing 'identical everyday' over 'short as possible' and the 150 foot runs are just what they need to be.

What started me on this push was doing a few back-to-back shows on a Vertec rig supplied by the same sound vendor in two different cities during the Peppers South America run. One Vertec rig was smaller, sounded tight, cleaner and had impact.  The next show we had a much larger Vertec system and it was nothing but mush. Tonally it was what I expected but for the life of me I could not get a solid impact out of the kick and it just had a overall blah sound. "Where have I heard that sound before?" It kept eating at me "what was the difference between the rigs?" Same amps, same vendor, same speakers, and I was bypassing all the system processor EQ and used the exact same preset, doing all the control on my side with gear I am carrying. Then it hit me, 70 volt systems! That's that sound, that soft mush. Tonality can be EQ'ed but it is like there is a big squishy compressor on everything. Could it be related? The larger Vertec setup was massive and the cable lengths would have had to be excessively long. Is it possible that the long cable lengths were introducing a bit of that soft squishy sound similar to the sound of 70 volt systems? Yes, I know the whole premise behind the 70 volt wiring is to run high voltage and minimize power loss and all but lets face it, constant voltage systems sound like the speaker is controlled by the amp about as well as a balloon can be controlled by a 50 foot string.

Once my ears had focused on it I then started to think I was hearing a similar, though way less drastic, version with the K1 system we had on the European dates. Perhaps a psycho-acoustic illusion, perhaps not and only one way I know to find out. And I sure as heck don't want to listen to the morons that make/buy audiophile ac and audio cables, as they will tell me that changing the AC wall outlet on the end of 100 miles of power company cable will make a 30 watt tube amp stereo sound better.

Oh, and while we are at it, I may as well take advantage of the AES digital inputs on the L-Acoustic LA-8 amps. Since the amp racks will be up in the air and less accessible, having a redundant digital and analog return line systems seems prudent anyway.

Ok, pretty simple, right? Add a few motors, some amp rack fly bumpers, throw some AES lines on the return snakes and all good. Hmmm, also need AC feeder up to the amp racks, longer return lines. But wait, we have a 330 foot main snake plus now we are adding another 150 feet to get up to the near-side clusters and 100 foot cross stage and then 150 feet to the far-stage cluster totaling nearly 600 feet on the far run. Oh my, so I loose 100 feet of speaker cable dropping to 50 footers while adding 150 feet to the signal wires. Plus yikes, we need about 4 AES lines per side, so maybe 4500 feet in AES cable and AES does not really like super long runs.

OK, enough of the blah blah about hoop jumping, what we settled on doing after considering fiber, AES repeaters and numerous other systems out there is to give the Riedel RockNet system a try.  We will convert to AES/EBU at FOH via an Apogee AD-16X we already own, hit a Riedel RN335DI and have an RN332DO in the flying amp world on each stage side.

So, if all goes well on this adventure, I will have 50 foot or shorter speaker cable runs from the flown amps, convert the return lines to digital at FOH and stay digital all the way into the processed amps and have analog return lines as well that convert to digital in the amps.  The audio signal will only convert from analog to digital one time regardless of whether I use the analog og digital return lines and I will be able to compare in near real time the sound differential between the two. Then to test the audibility of cable length I can have an additional 100 foot length of speaker cable added in on one side of the PA and pan between left and right to do a real world comparison between the sound of 150 feet of speaker cable to 50 feet on an arena sized K1 rig.

Oooh, fun! And thank you Jon Monson, Jim Lockyer and the other Rats for doing a all the research and work and making this adventure happen!

Alright, now that I have shovelled a big pile of nerdy audio overload out there, may as well look at some pictures.

Kurt Metzler, Kenton Forsythe and Paul Hugo rocking Rat hoodies my new office at the super cool new Rat Sound headquarters in Camarillo. 


So the day starts out all good. Heading to some head high waves with Gene.

I had so much fun on my first day out riding an old beat up Yater I had just finished patching up the night before

The leash breaks, board gets mashed on the rocks, I swim to rescue it, I get mashed on the rocks and now the board is dead, I was banged up pretty good, end of story.


My one and only gig during the break was mixing the Transplants at the Roxy, all good, so fun!


And I got to see the results of Tyler the Creator's temper tantrum at the Roxy and I actually used those group modules that he custom modified with his foot as seen below


And ha! Say hey to Sammy


And Madeline, so absolutely wonderfully smart, sarcastic and all around awesome!


And finally my fierce attack dog, Bones


Dave Rat


Thursday, December 29, 2011

Dave Rat Porta-Blog Dec 29 2011

Well alright, I guess I've been mostly offline for a while. I took a bit of a social network and thought sharing break to acclimate and get my head around the realities of this 18 to 24 month jaunt
Touring is a quandary for me and also like many things, I am really good at figuring out the exact same thing, over and over again. I love the travel and unfolding adventures yet I struggle with being trapped in a schedule written for me. I find it exhilarating to mix sound for the shows while the other 22 hours a day can be a challenging to fill with a level of usefulness that is remotely inspiring. The easy path is to dumb down reckless and robotically follow the itinerary. The magic goal is to find something passionately attractive enugh that does nt involve swimming upstream the whole time.
Anyway, I am finally feeling stable and clear enough into this tour adventure to start unraveling a few projects in the large scale audio realm.
First, I would like to make some headway on getting a grasp on the real world sonic effects of speaker cable length on a large scale sound systems. We know shorter speaker cables are better but how audible is excess length? How long is too long?
To tackle this, Rat Sound will be flying the main PA amp racks powering the K1 system this tour. This will allow us to reduce the main speaker cable lengths from the 150 feet I had in Europe to 50 feet. I expect to hear a noticeable improvement in dynamics. I have not fully sorted it all yet but hope to do some A/B comparative testing at some point as well where I add back in extra length to one side.
The second project is similar but will be a comparison between running analog signal the now 500' from FOH to the flown amps and then converting to digital via the L-Acoustics LA-8 internal A/D's. Versus converting the console outputs to digital at FOH, running digital signal the 500' and using the AES inputs on the LA-8s.
Since the LA-8 amps auto switch from AES to analog when AES is lost, the comparison should be fairly simple by just killing the AES outs.
In the meantime, I am mid plane flight to St. Barths for a gig in the tropical laps of luxury. Not my style and though these types of gigs are nearly always cumbersome at best for the us hired helpers, I do hope to get some surfing in. Oh, plus having low expectations allows the oppertunity for pleasant surprises to occur. I will send pics.
DR
P.S.
I have not forgotten about posting more info on my current sub setup, I will get to it soon

Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Dave Rat Porta-Blog Distilling Clarity

Hmmmm, well I came up with a very simple subjective method of comparing digi to analog based on what I once learned from asking a jeweler questions.

"How do you know a good diamond from a bad one?"

Well he showed me the x10 magnifier and went on to show me flaws in various diamonds not apparent to the untrained naked eye that we clearly visible magnified.

Hmmm, how can I apply this to audio? So I daiisy chained 10 analog console channels and 10 digi console chanels converting back and forth D to A ech time.

Basically a X10 multiplier of a common singular audio path. I found the subjective results interesting and confirming of my analog preference.

Being that my perception is subjective and we each tune in to differing flaw sets and we appropriate differing levels of importance to them I will recommend using this method to increase your awareness to the digital issues rather attempt to personally describe them.

Using this method to train our ears to pick out those flaws, the ones you can't quite identify but annoy, can assist in making improved equipment decisions for the application.

An experienced jeweler can spot a high quality diamond without the magnifier but first he/she had to know what to look for using tools that allow actual human eyes to see.

As we all know by now, the best specs in the world fail to trly tell us what something will actually sound like. For that we use our human ears hear.

Ok its' 5:45 am, I can hear the waves so I must hurry to catch daybreak surf. Wetsuit is still damp I am sure because I did not get it hanging up till 7pm or so. Not fond of putting on the cold wet wetsuit.

Weds morn and been home since Saturday, friday I'm off to Germany for another 3 weeks of Peppers. Gonna miss this bed and am really going to miss my gals and Rat family.